Thanks to Prof Marty for sending me this link about a California pastor (note: not Hank Hanegraaff and not Joel Osteen) who scored the poonanny by telling three women that the devil would harm them if they didn't have sex with him. Now, while I'm technically appalled by this "pastor's" behavior, I'm also in awe of him. Maybe he just lucked into three women stupid enough to go for this. For the record, and because I'm a feminist/womanist, odds are, if he was gay, he could have found three men just as gullible.
One of the women said:
When I was 20 I would have killed for women this naive. "Hey, baby, the devil said he's going to lash you with his pointy tail if you don't give me the booty tonight." That line never worked. Another woman said that the pastor told her the devil would leave her "gravely wounded" if she didn't have sex with him. Okay, who's been watching "The Devil's Advocate" on TNT? Picture Charlize Theron throwing off her blanket in the cathedral: "Look what he did to me!""He told me that there was a revelation from God," Dora said. "He told me that I had already been attacked by the devil, that I could only stop this by having sexual relations with him." Dora said she believed Romero because she considered him a "true pastor" who was "guiding us toward eternal life."
Seriously, there's money to be made and virgins to be deflowered in the pastor business. Boys, get busy.
We were just talking about something like this in class the other day (and never you mind which class or what context...it's a long story). This is the same mentality you see in cults where the women give up their husbands (and their booties) to the cult leader who defines this sex as part of their service to God.
This will make me think 3 or 4 times before going back to church!
Posted by: Jennifer | November 30, 2004 at 11:23 PM
These women didn't really believe him- they just wanted some God-sanctioned, hell-free action themselves.
Posted by: Kristen | December 01, 2004 at 07:11 AM
You know, I don't even know how stupid I believe they were. I think probably the word I would use is brainwashed. There's no way what they were going to is a church, that was a cult.
Posted by: Brandon | December 01, 2004 at 09:07 AM
Wait a minute... it's NOT TRUE that the devil will harm me if I don't have sex with Luke?? That bastard's had me fooled for 4 years!
Posted by: Sarah | December 01, 2004 at 11:23 AM
Can people really be that naive. I think they didn't want there friends to know that had sex with him because they wanted to. It is like those girls that make up the rape stories so the parents won't know they are slutty.
Posted by: eddie jones | December 01, 2004 at 11:29 PM
This is old style.
Numerous medieval tales had priests "removing demons" from the maidens they (the demons) were oppressing by "inserting their godly member."
That's good porn, folks. Sweet, sweet porn.
Posted by: marty | December 02, 2004 at 10:25 AM
This isn't just behavior you find in cults...cult-like thinking can be found across the board in churches from fundamentalist to liberal mainline, especially when a charismatic personality is involved.
Yep! If he were bi- or gay, he'd have found men...Jim Jones did. And if she were a woman, she'd have no doubt found found a willing man or woman as the case may be.
Pastoral ethics are important, but also so is encouraging each baptized person to think for herself. As I said to my partner, who is a pastor in a mainline tradition, after an angry phone call from a parishioner, "Sometimes folks get angry with you because you maximize their baptismal responsibility."
This also reminds me, we men are pigs no matter our affectional orientation.
Posted by: Christopher | December 03, 2004 at 03:55 PM